Why President Obama Will Not Be Elected to a Second Term

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By Ghost32

There's an email making the rounds which underscores the widespread belief among conservatives that if President Barack Hussein Obama is reelected to a second term in office, America is doomed. I'm one such conservative (though liberal on certain social issues)...but this Hub is not about that.

Instead, let's take a look at why I believe he will not be reelected in 2012.

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Where the OOPS (Obama's Overwhelming Plan to Socialize) implementers (including yes, the President himself) messed up--and continue to mess up--is simple:

They could not and still do not see the reality of America. To them, we're nothing but an aberration, a capitalistic wart on the butt of the planet than needs to be eliminated.

They fail to realize we're the very antithesis of that, not an aberration but a culmination of the desire for liberty embedded in the core of Soul. Far from being the last bastion of freedom, we're the first bastion the spearhead on the beach.

Had the enemies of liberty continued to slowly warm the frog in the kettle, it's entirely possible we might have allowed ourselves to be truly, firmly, and finally boiled to death. A scary thought, but there'd been far too few of us with eyballs properly peeled until the Obamanator came along. Unfortunately for the big-government proponents, however, the believed they had the cat in the bag, the brass ring on their finger, and the macho American psyche well and truly castrated. Overconfident, they jumped the gun.

How's that for a potpourri of metaphors?

Without President Obama as a foil, we would not have any of the following in place today:

--The founding and rise of the Tea Party.

--The current Republican majority in the House of Representative

--A strong conservative influence in that same House.

--A strong conservative, Herman Cain, running at the head of the pack for the Republican nomination in 2012.

--Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan which scraps the monstrous Tax code currently in place and starts over with a clean slate and no hidden (embedded) taxes.

These few examples are far from the entire picture, but you get the idea. Much of America has been roused from lethargic sleep by the OOPS assault. That slumber could not have been effectively interrupted by any lesser impact.

"Ah," I can hear my liberal friends responding, "but you forget the Wall Street Protestors! They are our counter to your Tea Party! Hee-hee! Ho-ho! Ha-ha!"

Really? Those two groups are comparable, you think? One wants more government and the other wants less government, two sides of the same coin? I'll give you that much. But the similarities stop there.

The Tea Party not only wants to restore America; its members know exactly how to do that. The Wall Street Protestors simply want to blow up anything having to do with capitalism (while still enjoying their music-in-the-ears technology made possible by capitalism). They have no program.

The majority of the Tea Party members understand the issues of the day and discuss them rationally at every opportunity. The Wall Street Protesters want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg (as savvy political Hubber LuxmiH recently pointed out).

The Tea Party Rallies leave a "clean floor" behind them, picking up after themselves so thoroughly that not so much as a gum wrapper is left behind. The Wall Street Protesters litter like they were getting paid to do it.

Oh. Wait. According to all reports, some of them are getting paid to do it.

The list goes on.

Yes. The list goes on. But after Election Day, Obama's Presidency does not.

Remember in November 2012.

Comments

Dexter Yarbrough profile image

Dexter Yarbrough Level 7 Commenter 7 months ago

Hi Ghost! Great hub! Yep, as I continue to watch what is happening, it really looks like he has only one more year to celebrate his presidency.

Admittedly, I had high hopes for him. I am disappointed - like many others.

Voted up, up and away!

junko Level 5 Commenter 7 months ago

So why you say Obama will not be elected to a second term? You were probally wrong about the 2008 Presidential elections also,and I almost hope the Republicans won the Presidency in 2008. When I think about it, that would be like cutting off my nose to spite my face. I believe that the four years spent with this one term President has been better for the nation then twelve years of Republican leadership. So I really don't care and I don't think Obama care if he is replaced by any of the unelectables. He did the best he could, as did W. If the people want Republican leadership again they will vote for it and they will get what they deserve. I hope you are wrong, but you might be right.

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Old Poolman Level 7 Commenter 7 months ago

Fred, let's hope your are right. I can't see Obama getting re-elected but stranger things have happened.

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drbj Level 8 Commenter 7 months ago

As the saying goes, Fred, ... "from your mouth to God's ears." America cannot afford four more years of obamination. Love the OOPS acronym - so fitting.

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Elenin Level 3 Commenter 7 months ago

The scary part to me is that Obama also sees the writing on the wall. Despite campaign promises, he recently let loose the dogs of the DOJ [Department of Justice] to actively prosecute the medical marijuana dispensers in states that have voted for their existence. This shows a blatant disregard for the political will of the people. I never liked the idea of a lame duck president. I especially do not like the idea of a lame duck with a year to go. Good Hub. Up and interesting.

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tosha11 7 months ago

Great Hub! I was kept interested all throughout the Hub. Also enjoyed the picture :)

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Ghost32 Hub Author 7 months ago

Dex: Thanks for the vote(s).

As you say, you're definitely not alone in the disappointment department. Which is a good thing for Amrica.

junko: Thanks for commenting. No, my wife and I actually called the 2008 election well in advance of Election Day. That is, we saw that Obama would win and we also saw the results of his election would be horrific.

I can't agree with the thought that McCain/Palin would have been worse for the nation than Obama...except in one respect. McCain is no conservative, and the country would likely have continued to slowly deteriorate--just not as fast as it has under Obama.

I do know I'd still be working my old water hauling job in Colorado instead of writing full time.

Mike: Yep, stranger things have definitely happened. Such as Obama getting elected in 2008. There was a whole lotta "strange" going on that time.:)

drbj: Glad you like the OOPS. It did seem to sort of sum things up in a nutshell.

Elenin: Yeah, that's scary all right. Nor do I much care for the lame duck arrangement with him out there cripple-quacking as we speak. Gotta say, I can honestly remember at least a few things about every President back to and including Truman, and none of them ever came CLOSE to the strangeness of the Obama Presidency.

tosha: Thanks! :)

junko Level 5 Commenter 7 months ago

Ghost, "To be a king a man must have a queen, without a queen a man of any age can only be a prince" I have good council with my queen also, but we both were surprized Obama won. I think the president would offer stimulas monies in Colorado if the Governor will except it, some won't. Write on until you get back on your horse. It really don't matter who is President, the Creator has a master plan.

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Elenin Level 3 Commenter 7 months ago

Agreed. A cripple-quacking lame duck for a president is not a good thing. This latest excursion, now into central Africa, sending 100 US military trainer/observer/advisors to help combat the Lord's Resistance Army, a band of just 200 rebels does not make a lot of sense. In a time of peace it would be outrageous, now it is barely a blip.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 7 months ago

junko: We've been in Arizona ever since the election of Obama instantly "killed" the natural gas drilling boom in Colorado. And I can hardly say the word "stimulus" without gagging, so there is that.

I'm retired now (age 68) and perfectly content to write, write, write, helping Obama fulfill his desting as the worst one-term President in our nation's history.

But, thanks for your kind words. They are appreciated.

About the Creator's master plan: I agree that such a plan does exist...but I also believe it really DOES matter who is President. Also that God helps those who help themselves, and I am thoroughly enjoying helping both myself and my country by ousting the imposter currently occupying the Oval Office.

If and when I can do nothing about it, then yes, I can say, "Okay, done my part, no gas left in the tank and burned all the fumes, let go and let God." Until then, though, (as they say), if it's to be it's up to me.

I've seldom seen pundits say this since the (2008) election, but there's zero doubt in my mind as to when McCain lost the election. Obama didn't win the thing; John McCain threw it away when he abandoned the campaign trail to rush back to Washington, reach across the aisle, and vote for the first (George W.) stimulus package.

Prior to that time (which only covered two or three days), McCain had been ahead of Obama in the polls by several percantage points. But he lost traction when he did that, Obama pulled ahead, and their relative positions held more or less steady right through Election Day.

Remember in November 2012.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 7 months ago

Elenin: Missed that one. Ouch.

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breakfastpop Level 8 Commenter 7 months ago

We cannot afford 4 more years of governing by fiat and deception. I thought Carter was the worst president but Obama has blown that belief to bits.

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resspenser Level 4 Commenter 7 months ago

Great! Voted up, up and away!

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lsingleton 7 months ago

Obama may not be a good fit for the Country, but then again who is?

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Ghost32 Hub Author 7 months ago

BPop: Exactly. Even as bad as Carter has gotten SINCE leaving office, he STILL doesn't come close to OBama.

resspenser: Thanks.

Isingleton: Herman Cain is looking like a pretty good fit at the moment. When he labels himself a "problem solver", he's neither joking nor boasting. Until researching his accomplishments for a Hub, I had no clue:

http://ghost32.hubpages.com/hub/Belive-It-Or-Not-T

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tom hellert Level 7 Commenter 7 months ago

Ghostie- sometimes it takes a horrible situation to get something changed-

be nowithout Hitler there would not have been a coalition of the rest of the worldagainst him without the "evil Empire of Russia and a pathetic jimmy Carter-there would have been no Reagan. without king George- no american revolution no Luke Skywalker without Darth Vader

where would Superman be without Lex Luther

TH

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Ghost32 Hub Author 7 months ago

Got it. You don't get superheroes without super villains. Fact of life.

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LuxmiH Level 4 Commenter 7 months ago

Great Hub Ghost32. Voted up ++

I wish I had your bouyant confidence. When both Hitler and Chavez won their 'elections', the situation was exactly the same as what America's situation is right now.

This administration is not and will not play by the rules. There's a lot more dirty tricks up their sleaves. You have no idea how many dead and duplicate people will be voting against American freedom. In Africa voter fraud, intimidation and winning by fair means or foul is the name of the game. I wouldn't be surprised if OWS are being recruited to sign up to vote multiple times even as I write this.

Even so, as long as we stand United side by side we can still overcome and restore America to her God Given Greatness. (We will need a lot of prayer power though.)

We must not rest on our boodies and think that winning America back is a done deal.

Similar to the Germans and those in Venenzuela, we are too trusting and naive' in believing the oppressive power will play by the rules. They will not. I've seen it before, they'll pull every nasty trick in the book.

It saddens me to read people like Junko's perspective. "Father forgive them for they know not what they do". Keep writing, you are doing a striling job!

Excuse me now, I have to jump on board the Cain Train. Cain's name is an anagram of "I can!"

God Bless the USA!

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Ghost32 Hub Author 7 months ago

LuxmiH: My confidence is real, but "bouyant" is not the adjective I'd use.

Let me try to explain: I do believe God exists, but I'm not a Christian. Prayer as I use it is not a matter of talking to God. Instead, I simply picture the situation (whatever it may be) as I know it, silently chant the Hu, leave God's part to God, and...get to work.

As in: God helps those who help themselves. Trust in God AND tie up your camel.

That sort of thing.

You are also mistaken on one other point: Oh yes I very much DO have an idea how many dead and duplicate people will be voting against American freedom. Just a couple of cases from the 2010 elections kept Nevada Senator Harry Reid and Arizona Representative Raul Grijalva in office. (Both were trailing in the polls going into the final days but "miraculously" ended up with more votes.)

Rest? I can rest when I'm dead. (I can't, actually, but it sounds good to most folks.) No way I'm resting.

So...if I'm not naive, why am I certain? By the numbers:

1. I personally will not let Obama win a second term. Remember the saying, "if it's to be it's up to me"?

2. Literally millions of other Americans are now wide awake, multiplying "I personally" by a huge number of determined voters.

3. America is not any other country you've experienced or watched. There is a REASON we are who we are, a Constitutional Republic founded by liberty-loving rebels with both education and insight. We ARE exceptional...and we intend to kick a** in 2012.

5. The word "intend" is everything. I and my millions of fellow fired-up citizns of these United States do not merely "hope" or "expect" or "wish for" the desired result. We INTEND to see Obama out, by legal means through the established political process, and we WILL accomplish the inevitable result: Bye-bye, Barry.

We are NOT trusting or naive. We do NOT expect the opposition to play by the rules. Yet we DO intend to win.

It is all too easy to believe the opposition has real power simply because they tell us they have it. "Fear George Soros", say they, "Fear the Omnipotent Obama and is Endless Campaign Rhetoric! They be unstoppable!"

I call B.S. Their power is an illusion, and the illusion is being pierced as we speak. Pundits say "Cain is done!" and then AFTER that, he shoots to the top of the pack, tying with Romney in the polls. THEN they say, "Okay, that was cool, but now he's shot his bolt and will start to fade, look at this fumble, yada yada yada." And the following week when the polls hit, he moves AHEAD of Romney.

LuxmiH, in this country, as frightening as the trend has been and continues to be under Obama, We the People have the real power.

As you say, God Bless the USA!

And, Remember in November 2012!

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LuxmiH Level 4 Commenter 7 months ago

Did I mention that you are singing my (Hu) song? hECK I love everything you say. I am constantly reminding myself to have faith and to hold onto the dream.

I'm cautioning myself more than anyone else. I too believe in the power of the dream. Evidently I am still working on dismantling the fears of my past.

I am so sorry if I appear to be a nay-sayer. I love your respnse and I believe lots of good will come of it.

I pray that our comments add a purification fire to the Hub.

God bless the USA!

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Ghost32 Hub Author 7 months ago

Cool! (Not surprising--had a hunch--but still very cool.)

I've been singing the Hu since '72

A member since '74

And still to this day some get blown away

At the attitudes I explore

They'll freak at times when I make bad rhymes

Admitting that I still like karma

Without shadow that light gets way too bright

And I can't find my cottonpicking dharma! :)

May the blessings be.

SanXuary Level 5 Commenter 7 months ago

Until I know who is running I have no idea who might win. Currently, there is no one in both parties that even stands out. I will vote for Obama if I consider him the lesser evil. I might even vote on the idea of failure hoping the next candidate finally brings this nightmare to an end. Really I do not think it matters who we elect until we petition this Government to remove the lobbyist and money from this Government that no longer represents anyone.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 7 months ago

I can truly understand your concerns even though considering Obama to be a "lesser" evil to anyone in the Republican stable is beyond me.

However, "petititioning ths government" to make changes is essentially (as I see it) a useless gesture. The folks in charge simply go, "Ho-hum, another petition, where's the (*yawn*) shredder?

Removing funding? Yeah. That could work. If we can enforce it.

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clintonb 7 months ago

I think Obama surely has brought a lot of change to America. Everybody has positives and negatives. Lets see..as u said..November 2012.

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tom hellert Level 7 Commenter 7 months ago

ghost et all,

Sanx-voting for Obama is like walking in front of a train because you have incurable cancer- I guess if your gonna die ... i wouldd kill myself faster (and i do not wish you to kill yourself).

ghostie-I hope you are right and he goes back to community aggitation.

TH

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Ghost32 Hub Author 7 months ago

clintonb: Yes; it's the change he's brought to America that has his most implacable opponents (including me) so highly motivated. His policies brought me personally the change of losing an $80,000 per year trucking job and a $242,000 house. His Obamacare change brought many of us to the point of being willing to face jail rather than bow to the neck-shackle of being forced to buy insurance we neither desire nor need. And so forth.

November 2012.

Tom: I love that image: Moving Trains = Ultimate Cancer Cure. I know of a man in Montana who terminated himself by stepping out in front of an 18-wheeler on a remote 2-lane highway in the middle of the night. Had on dark clothing to make sure. A big rig is no train, but 80,000 pounds smacking you headon at 55 mph still does the job.

Pleasant scenario to contemplate: The Cain Train derails the Obamanation Overland Express.

Believe me, I hope I'm right, too.

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tom hellert Level 7 Commenter 7 months ago

Ghosty,

we support Cain but we still are racists for not supporting Barry

TH

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Ghost32 Hub Author 7 months ago

Tom: That, and we have the nerve to question how much our human activities have to do with melting the planet, we want the rich to have all the money, and the Tea Party is owned by the Koch Brothers.

Can't deny all those thoroughly proven, incontrovertible facts, can we?

Bugs the left no end that Cain is Able.

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tom hellert Level 7 Commenter 7 months ago

G,

Cain is Able i like that

TH

Ghost32 profile image

Ghost32 Hub Author 7 months ago

Tom: Me too. At another Hubber's suggestion, I emailed that to the Cain campaign (via the website) a while back. Later saw it used on one of the Facebook pages. Don't know that there's any conection but would be amazed, should he succeed in gaining the nomination, if there weren't a "Cain is Able" bumper sticker for the general election campaign.

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wba108@yahoo.com Level 7 Commenter 6 months ago

I will keep praying that your right, that the president will be a one termer. It's been historically difficult to prevent a second term to an incumbent president but the times we're in, are unprecedented.

I've never been as concerned about politics as I am now, I see things as you do in that the arrogant overplay of the left has sparked a new Constitutional and spiritual revolution for the soul of America. I'm praying that it will be sustained and that America will finally wake up to the reality of what's at stake!-Everything!-Regards-WBA

ThomasRydder 6 months ago

My ex-wife was one of those whooping, hollering CHANGE automatons that believed Obama was the second coming (lack of capitilization self-explanatory). I simply said after the election that I hoped she was as exultant in a couple years. Since, thankfully, we no longer share the same household (due to issues not related to politics), sad to say, I don't have the pleasure to dance about and blow her a raspberry. However, I CAN say that the ones who believed that a "fresh start" is better than a conservative platform must now look to November-and quickly decided= whether we subject this great country to 4 more years of liberal spending-til-you-drop, or if they might just have to bite the bullet and go for the more common sensical approach, i.e. vote for whomever runs against the Pres.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 6 months ago

SanXuary: Your most recent comments have been deleted/denied, not because there was anything wrong with them per se, but simply because they were just plain (in my book) too negative overall for my comfort zone. My Hubs are designed as opinion pieces, not public debate forums.

Note to our other readers: FYI, the negativity to which I refer included both political parties and "the spiritual movement in this country".

Junko: Your comment was deleted simply because of its "joining" with SanXuary's; i.e., one wouldn't make sense without the other. You were right, though; SanXuary's reasoning will not be heard here.

wba108: Historically difficult, maybe, but certainly not impossible. Think Carter.

ThomasRydder: Thankfully, my wife now is the same one I had in 2008 (though I do have 6 exes), and we both saw Obama coming from a mile off. Well...a lot farther than that, actually. From the first time we ever saw him on TV.

I've got a kid sister and brother in law who had that split in political viewpoint (but not in their marriage, thankfully). Don't know if she's "stop loving Obama" yet or not.

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Charles Webb-it Level 1 Commenter 6 months ago

Good write up on this topic Ghost. I really like your perspective in alot of your hubs.

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tom hellert Level 7 Commenter 6 months ago

Ghosty,

I am a registered Republican *shock* my wife a registered Dem- but she registered 30+ years ago she has sense grown up and wiser now votes the "right way" and listens to sensible radio shows with me now... so there is always hope...

TH

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Ghost32 Hub Author 6 months ago

Charles: Thanks. I like my perspective, too. :)

Tom: My parents cancelled each other's votes for all 52 years of their marriage--he Republican, she Democrat. Now it's down to me Republican (though I was registered Independent until a few years ago) and my kid sister Democrat.

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Mighty Mom 6 months ago

Ghost -- not all of us Dems drank the Obama koolaid.

I am still wondering what he stands for. He seems to have become quite a hawk on foreign affairs, that's for sure.

Everything will hinge on where the economy's at in 2012.

Fingers x'd the worst is behind us!

But with Congress' approval rating in the gutte and approaching single digits, I predict the pendulum will swing back in 2012 because Americans only know how to knee-jerk from one extreme to the other.

We (as a country) need to blame "someone" for our failings.

I don't think Cain's going to make it through the primary. Somebody's gunning for him and he's falling for the trap. It's not about what you did or didn't do, it's about how you react under fire.

Good hub. MM

P.S. My parents also. Canceled each others' votes every year.

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tom hellert Level 7 Commenter 6 months ago

mom,

Obama and the foreign policy he is NOT a hawk for USA he is a hawk for the Muslim Brotherhood as usualhe has been on the wrong side of these foreign policy issues. i cross my fingers that the public does not fall for his version of the world hopefully they look at who the US helped and will realize Barrys streak of being on the wrong side of an arguement or issue.

TH

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Mighty Mom 6 months ago

I meant for someone whose main claim to fame in 2008 was that he was against the Iraq War (which Hillary Clinton voted for) he has changed his tune with assassinations and drones, etc.

I don't want to hijack Ghost's hub tho. We can talk about this on the forums:-). MM

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Ghost32 Hub Author 6 months ago

Mighty Mom: Yay! (I honestly think you may be the first Dem I've talked to who's acknowledged avoiding the sugary drink!)

That's hilarious--the parents cancelling each other's votes throughout "eternity". It sometimes seemed like I was the only one. :)

Not sure I understand why you see Herman Cain as not reacting well under fire. From the view provided via my puny periscope, he seems to be doing beautifully so far. But we'll see; I've long since given up predicting how any given individual will come through a political smear storm.

I'm not sure the single-digit Congressional approval means as much as the pundits would like to convince us it does. I know Obama loves to point at that, but he's not running against Congress, so that part of it is pure campaign smoke screen (designed to augment the Kool-Aid effect).

Bottom line, I honestly expect the Republicans to take over the Senate AND increase their majority in the House.

And, let's get to cranking out those primaries, shall we? This waiting is getting on my nerves! LOL!

Tom: I held off on responding to Mighty Mom's foreign policy comment because you did most of the work for me. Thanks, T. Rex!

I do have this to add about Obama on foreign policy: Besides agreeing with Tom, I also believe much of what the Prez does (or does not do) internationally has to do with his narcissistic ego rather than any sort of rational approach toward real policy making.

He's certainly not much of a hawk when it comes to the foreginers invading the USA via our southern border, either.

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onegoodwoman Level 4 Commenter 6 months ago

Who truly knows?

There was a time, when I thought that he had NO chance.

When he won the election, it was as tough my children and their counterparts had betrayed me.

Let us see the truth,..........you and I are of the old school, we are the underdogs, the old hedges......the foggies.

We have FAILED......

to teach our children values

history

a work ethic

a neighbor helping neighbor helping neighbor mentality

we have kept them away from " the neighbors"

we have failed to teach them, all that they will need

we have given them too much........too many goods,

too much responsibilty, too many choices, too much young voice..........we have told them........go, grow and reach out..........NOW, we as those approaching "seniorhood", we will reap, that which we have sown.......

Our children have learned from us.........there is a policy, an instution.....that will deal with you

NOW, they really will choose the instituitions that deal with us.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 6 months ago

onegoodwoman: Why, aren't you the cheerful Soul! :)

It's not all as grim (at least from my perspective) as the picture you paint so expressively. Our children have NOT learned as you depict it...at least if by "our" I mean my wife and me, personally. We've "only" been together for the past 15 years, but her 3 adult children are "old school" to a significant degree.

Her middle daughter being the shining star of the group: 166 measured IQ, had herself an out of wedlock son at age 18, a failed first marriage, and still rose to the top. Got a job in Houston with an energy company, put herself through college with a double major in computer science (forget the other)WHILE WORKING and raising her son, met an awesome dude on the job--and next August wil travel to his home Scotland for their wedding.

My two sons: One dropped dead without warning at age 37, reason never determined. The other pulled himself out of heavy drug use, put himself through (again, go figure) a computer major in a small Montana college, and has gone from there.

Plus, NO institution will deal with me or Pam. Ever. Ain't happening.

But..do We the People of this greatest nation on God's green Earth have some work to do? Oh yeah. And we're going to do it. The 2010 elections were a start, Round One.

And away-y-y we go!

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tom hellert Level 7 Commenter 6 months ago

ghostie she definitely is one goodwoman... and my new hero.. good to see some folks still think straight- funny thing about my boys- my older one is "thank God" more conservative than me he is 13 my 10 yr old is "wise-intuitive smart" has a grip on reality as to the protestors he says "they should go get jobs or at least a life"

I'm so proud of my kids..

TH

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Ghost32 Hub Author 6 months ago

Yes, Tom, you should indeed be proud of those kids of yours.

Agree with your evaluation of our straight-thinking lady commenter. Except for the new hero part; Pam would be highly offended if she lost her long-established position.

Saw a Yahoo headline a few minutes ago saying many of the protesters live in luxury in their "other lives". As in, benefitting greatly from the capitalism they claim to despise.

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IJR112 Level 1 Commenter 6 months ago

The problem for the Republicans is not having a great candidate to take on Obama. I think Jon Huntsman is great, but Republicans don't seem to like him for some reason.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 6 months ago

IJR112: I totally disagree: Herman Cain is an absolutely awesome candidate to take on Obama.

I'm a Republican and don't like Jon Huntsman for lots of reasons, one of which is that I see him as pro-big government. Another is his appearance.

Yep. I'm perfectly willing to take one look at a guy and go "Nuh-uh!!"

And I'm not about to vote for a guy who takes any post under a Democrat President.

(BARF! GAG! HURL!) But perhaps I should open up, tell you how I really feel about Huntsman...!

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Mighty Mom 6 months ago

Bill Clinton, Clarence Thomas and Arnold Schwarazenneger (who I DID vote for!!).

Anyway, not sure what Hi Ghost,

Hope you're cool with me coming back. It's refreshing to read alternative viewpoints in a setting that is non-combative (e.g., NOT like the forums).

I, too, am very dismayed at the culture of America. It just doesn't feel like America to me anymore (I'm guessing we're of a similar generation). The values I was raised with (which transcend political party) seem to have been lost to consumerism, personal irresponsibility, greed and lack of conscience. On a mass scale. I don't want to be gloom and doom here.

As I said, I didn't want Obama as my president.

But I can't get behind "Anybody but Obama." Didn't we just do that in 2008???

I'm still waiting for a magical silver bullet 2012 candidate to drop from the sky. No idea who that would be.

But honestly, does it not bother you how the GOP cannibalizes itself? I don't know who "leaked" the Cain sexual harassment stuff, but it was either Perry or Romney. I can't stand either of them. But I have to say, Cain's selective memory is (IMHO) NOT helping him at all. But it doesn't matter. "They" want him demolished so he will be demolished. You wait and see.

Thank you for allowing me to come and chat with you guys. MM

P.S. Can I persuade you to write a hub about Hunstman? Seriously, it's the only press the guy's ever gonna get:-). LOL.

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htodd 6 months ago

Great post...Thanks

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Ghost32 Hub Author 6 months ago

Mighty Mom: I'm VERY cool with you coming back...but me write a Hub about Huntsman? Oh, that's just wicked! LOL!

Whether the attempt(s) to demolish Cain will succeed or not...I truly understand your certainty that he will be, but suspect that he will survive their worst and be the stronger for it. If he DOES get wiped out by the sexual harrassment claims, of course, it'll be in the primaries.

But if he gains the nomination, these early attacks will actually ending up helping him.

(*Huh? Why? Whatchoo sayin' Ghost!?*)

Simple: The "bad stuff" will have surfaced early and be useless against him with the less conservative voters--goodness gracious, y'all elected Bill Clinto twice and bragged about it, fer cri-yi! LOL!

You do have good taste. I don't have much use for either Perry or Romney, either. But I'll vote for whoever we nominate against Obama; I've been on the ABO train (Anybody But Obama) since the first split second I saw him on TV--well before he got the nomination in 2008.

And his policies in practice have only deepened and underscored that revulsion.

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onegoodwoman Level 4 Commenter 6 months ago

, I do not

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glenn wallace Level 1 Commenter 6 months ago

I'm curious - in almost every category Obama has shown himself to be pretty moderate, and at times downright Bushesque in his policy choices. Yet, the view that our President is a socialist boogeyman has persisted. This hub points out many of the social and political signs of backlash that have already occurred ... but I still don't hear a lot of specifics about WHY he's still viewed as such a boogeyman.

Healthcare reform? It's a hollow shell of what many socialists and even the bipartisan 'single payer' groups have asked for. Economy? He literally carried on with Bush's gameplan for economic stimulus. DADT? He did exactly what McCain said he'd do... before he weaseled out of it. Civil liberties? Patriot Act just enjoyed it's 10-year celebration without a peep of protest from Obama. Taxes? He asked to sunset the Bush tax cuts right when BUSH DESIGNED THEM TO SUNSET.

You want a Republican in the White House in 2012? I say you practically have one already.

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Mighty Mom 6 months ago

What we have is a Republican lapdog with a big ego and teeny tiny cojones.

Quick. Name 10 hardcore Dems within Congress who are supporters of Obama. Ok, how about 5. Do I hear 1?

Anybody???

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Ghost32 Hub Author 6 months ago

Glen: I'm probably going to start reducing the number of approved comments on this page pretty soon--it's starting to get the feel of a Forums discussion. (My Hubs are designed as opinion pieces, not public debate forums.)

But I will (briefly) address just the one issue you raised: Healthcare reform. And I'll mention just two of the many issues I have with that particular law:

1. The President's private army, created therein. Read it and weep (or in your case, perhaps weep only because the army is not large enough).

2. The individual mandate. I'm one of many who will never comply with that provision, ever. Period. I'm self pay, have been for most of my life, and at age 68 still carry my own freight.

And no, before you assume wrongly, I do not go to emergency rooms looking for "free" care. There is no such thing as a free lunch, nor would I like the menu if there was.

Mighty Mom: As I was saying, this will be about the last "Forums discussion" type comments approved on this Hub. The view of those (such as you and Glenn) who see Obama as a "Republican lapdog" may even be correct in one sense--we certainly agree about the size of his huevos--but the backlash against Obama is NOT a "Republican" backlash per se.

It's a CONSERVATIVE backlash. There are plenty of RINOs out there.

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KBEvolve Level 2 Commenter 6 months ago

I wish I was as confident as you are, but it would indeed be a miracle if he won re-election given the state of the country now. It's been often said that he inherited a mess, but it's also clear that he made it worst.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 6 months ago

Confidence tends to be either a virtue or a failing of mine, I guess, depending on the conditions.

I'd say you've summed up the overall situation well.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 6 months ago

Modern Greetings: Your comment was denied/deleted. As indicated above (two of my comments up), my Hubs are designed as opinion pieces, not public debate forums.

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ivantsoft 6 months ago

This guy failed on everything he promised. At least this is my opinion. He won't be reelected although there are not limits to people's stupidity.

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mkott Level 2 Commenter 6 months ago

Love how so many of you forgot who got us into this mess. If Obama has failed then it's a fact that Bush bombed. Now we have a Congress that could care less of what the average working/unemployed American is going through. As long as we the voters tow the party line and take the attitude of it's my team against yours we the people will suffer. Politicians are all whores that sell themselves to those that have the ultra big bucks. And guess what, that does not include the majority of the people.

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SaiKit 6 months ago

Wow, finally a person who is able to spell out the issues and explain the evil of liberalism/socialism with humors and simple words! You have done what so many conservative failed to do! Why is it so hard to make it fun and simple for people learn about the conservative values and the evil of progressive agenda?

I like the goose analogy, as well as several others in this short hub. It's wonderful because I know that many people don't have the attention span to read a long article and digest so many good logic and facts. This hub is just enough for the people to understand and fit into their attention span and capacity to understand concepts! :)

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tom hellert Level 7 Commenter 6 months ago

all,

my impression of Barrywwwwwaaaahhhh wwwwwaaahhhh i inherited a mess- unemployment was under 5 wwwwaaaahhhhh

"but Barrack its 9+% now

wwwwwaaaahhhhh wwwaaahhh it ws worse than I thought wwwwaaahhhh wwwwaaahhhh \

but Barrack what did You do to make it better??

Sniff waahhh-i gave money to my union pals and and wwaaahh and laudered money basically for the ir votes

i put up obama care and got it passed-

But barrack-wasnt that a dirty trick to get it passed by "deeming it passed?""

wwwwaaahhh wwaaahhh this procedure was many times for all sorts of things wwwahhhh its not fair-

But mr obama, that procedure has never been used to transform 1/3 of the us economy wwwaahh I am the president wwaaahh I can executive order anything i want...wwwwwaaaahhh

is that why you have used executive fiat more than any president...

wwwwaaaahhhh I am president cant I make a few czar freinds for myself

wwwwaaahhhh waaaahhh its not fair nOT FAIR not fair

Mr President- stop stamping your foot NOT FAIR NOT FAIR

just an iea

TH

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trimar7 Level 3 Commenter 6 months ago

I came across this hub and knew you just had to check out Partisan Patriots hubs. I know you two will become good buddies.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 6 months ago

ivantsoft: Unfortunately, he didn't quite fail on everything he promised, i.e. socialized health care. Unless you count the fact that Obamacare itself is rapidly failing, then...:)

mkott: I'm not a big George W. fan, either--in large part because I see Bush as also being essentially a Progressive in his policies. That is, believing in bigger and bigger government, more intrusion into people's lives (Patriot Act, etc.), open borders, and all that.

But not all politicians are whores. That's a convenient statement, but not quite accurate. The trouble is, it only takes a few "political whores" doing what they're told for money in order for the system set up by the Founders to experience serious problems.

SaiKit: Thanks for the compliment. You made my day. :)

Tom: As always, your presentation is clear yet subtle! LOL!

trimar7: I do check out Partisan Patriot's Hubs from time to time and agree. We don't spend a LOT of time on each other's pages, primarily because there's so much to do without losing time between now and November 2012. That is, we each know the other "gets the picture", so Salute and go till the fields that have yet to see the plow.

My take on it, anyway.:)

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DanielNeff Level 3 Commenter 4 months ago

Ghost,

You mention that you expect the Republicans to take the Senate. This is something that does not get talked about, yet is actually more important than the White House.

If Obama wins re-election, but the Republicans gain veto-proof majority in both houses of Congress, Obama will be able to do NOTHING. As a matter of fact, Congress would be able to pass anything they want, including the repeal of Obamacare, and he would be powerless to stop them. However, if a Republican wins the White House, but the Democrats retain control of the Senate, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING will get done.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 4 months ago

Daniel, I'd agree 100%--with any other man but Obama in the White House. Unfortunately, the current President has shown himself all too willing to ignore Congress and rule by fiat, i.e. Executive Orders and floods of regulations issuing forth from the various agencies. Even as we speak, he's on record as saying he plans to do ONLY what can be done that way during all of 2012.

Not even a veto-proof majority would entirely thwart this guy.

However, on that score it's all or nothing, anyway. If Obama pulls off a reelection bid, there's no way Republicans are going to gain enough seats in the Senate. We might gain a majority--anything is possible--but there certainly would not be enough of a shift to get to 60 seats.

You nailed with your final sentence, though. Absolutely, we either end up with all three (House, Senate, AND the Presidency) in Republican hands...or gridlock continues.

Like they say, failure is not an option.

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tom hellert Level 7 Commenter 4 months ago

GHosty,

Gridlock is better than Dem control

TH

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Ghost32 Hub Author 4 months ago

Tom, I agree absolutely. My observation that "gridlock would continue" was NOT meant to imply otherwise. :)

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tom hellert Level 7 Commenter 4 months ago

Ghotie,

WHEW.... thought you drank the Koolaid for a minute there...

TH

*hehe*

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Ghost32 Hub Author 4 months ago

LOL! Yeah, Tom, I could sense your distress. Not to worry, though. Been off the stuff for a lo-ong time.

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