Understanding Bone Density : Good Bone, Bad Bone, In-Between Bone

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By Ghost32

Osteoporosis. Now, there's a word you don't want to hear, right behind cancer and, "You've got to quit smoking." Porous bones. Brittle bones. Bones that go snap! Crackle! Pop!

No, not me. I'm talking about my wife, Pam. My 100-pound redhead took a bone density test in 2002. The doctor looked at the scan results. His jaw dropped. "You've got the bones of an 80-year-old woman!"

Great ego builder there, considering Pammie was 51 years of age at the time. Not to mention a lifetime athlete and a serious hottie. How could she face looking like one of the Three Witches with an old crone's hump, stirring the cauldron, boil and bubble, toil and trouble? No-o-o-o!

Sound familiar? To millions of people out there, it does. Especially (but not exclusively) to women and predominantly (but again, not exclusively) "older folks".

Her doctor prescribed a bone-building med. That one didn't work right for her, so he tried a different product.

That medication did work. My sweetheart began breaking lots and lots of bones at a very early age for a number of interwoven reasons. From long experience, she knows a hard hit is going to "break something". In recent years, since the medication regimen, she's bounced more, broken less. She logically wants to get a new bone density scan, see "how much bone she's rebuilt".

Which is a good idea, and we'll do that--when we can afford it. We're self-pay, cash and carry, which is just the way we like it. Besides, there's no rush.

Why not?

Because the results of a bone density scan taken after a person has been on "bone meds" for a time can be (in my opinion) somewhat misleading.

Why?

To explain that, we first need to take a look at the life cycle of bone and how bone medications work as described in the available literature.

It turns out that healthy bones are growing fresh, new bone constantly and sloughing off little tiny invisible specks of old, wornout, useless bone at the same time, all the time, till Death do us part. Out with the old, in with the new. Out with the old, in with the new.

When the speed of bone-growing meets or exceeds the speed of bone-dumping, we're in great shape.

This morning, I needed to explain all of this and more to Pam. She's known it, but one of her many ailments causes her to lose a bit of knowledge now and then, and we need to replace it to keep her mind functioning at its usual awesome level.

To help get the point across, I coined a few descriptive terms and quickly sketched a crude but effective visual aid in three parts: Good bone (Stone Bone), bad bone (Shell Bone), and in-between bone (Shell Bone plus Sand Bone). A "bit of bone" is shown as a simple bee-honeycomb type hexagon, which you'll not find in any literal photgraph of bone lattice, but close enough.

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Relatively speaking, "tough bones" tend to have thicker (and therefore stronger) "calcium walls" with smaller spaces between the solid matter structures. One could think of it as a dense, impenetrable thicket of mature bamboo--hence the term, bone density.

That's good bone.

Duh.

But when the speed of new bone growth begins for any reason to lag behind the speed of bone-speck release (think of the "old outgoing bone specks" as specks of sand)...there's the rub. The "calcium walls" become thinner and thiner over time, with the interior spaces getting larger and larger, until what you have in your bone structure is literally a shell of its former self.

Ouch.

Now you have bad bone.

Okay. So far, so good.

So, tell me, Ghost, I take me some bone building medication the doctor prescribes. There's at least a chance I can rebuild my bones a bit, right?

Not exactly.

See, the bone medications currently availble do not build bone per se. That is, they don't work on the "incoming" side at all. They're not improving the rate at which your body is able to form new bone.

They're only slowing the release rate of old, wornout bone. That's all they do.

So...that's still good, right?

Yes...to a degree. See, those meds don't prevent the bone from deteriorating; they just make the skeleton hang onto those already wornout "sand specks" of "dead bone" for a bit longer than would normally being the case.

Uh...so?

So this: You've been on a good bone med for a while. You take a new bone density scan. The numbers are better, and you're once again ready to caper about, leaping tall buidlings in a single bound.

Not so fast.

What has been accomplished is not to produce a wonderful Fountain of Youth Stone Bone skeleton. Instead, it has cobbled together a hybrid situation never intended by Mother Nature: The old Shell Bone structure is still there, but now it's partially filled with tiny specks of Sand Bone waiting their turn to get recycled.

As in the illustration below.

Obviously, Shell Bone with Sand Bone will resist breaking under impact (such as hitting the floor when falling or smacking the corner of your desk when moving around the office) better than Shell Bone alone could ever do. That's a good thing.

On the other hand, it's not Stone Bone strong and never will be. It cannot be.

Which (finally!) brings us to an understanding about the somewhat misleading results of any bone density scan taken after implementation of a bone medication regimen.

Huh?

Okay, let's try this. Without going into the details (which would require another Hub), keep in mind that a scan score of -1 or above is really good, what a healthy woman in her twenties might expect to see. At -2.5 or lower, you've got osteoporosis. In between, you're headed for trouble, but you're not totally there yet. (That area is called osteopenia, in case you're into big words.)

Now, here's a totally B.S. example, because this much improvement "ain't happening", but to make the point, pretend your first test score came in at -2. Gotta start being careful.

Many months of medication later, your bone scan blows the minds of your doctors (which it would), coming in at -1. You've now got the bones of a youngster again, right?

Nope. Because the bone density scan has no way to tell the difference between Stone Bone versus Shell Bone with Sand Bone.

A realistic number, if it could tell the difference, might be something like -1.5. Definite improvement, but definely not rolling back to the Stone Bone years, either. (No Rolling Stone Bones? Dang.)

That's it for now. Discussion in the comments section should be interesting.

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ThoughtSandwiches profile image

ThoughtSandwiches Level 7 Commenter 9 months ago

Hi Fred...I was with my mom when she got the "bad bone" news in the hospital. As it came with the more bad news of "You also have terminal lung cancer," we did not sweat the "bad bone" news so much. She passed about five months later. It sounds like Pam is a fighter...lol...good for you! Voted Up and interesting.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 9 months ago

Hey, Thomas. I don't suppose you did sweat the "bad bone" news in particular.

Pam is definitely a fighter. Heart of Gold and fists of steel. So to speak.

As opposed to the way I describe myself in the song celebrating our hooking up, i.e., "Half blue-eyed compassion and the other half...twisted steel."

Thanks for the Votes.

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ThoughtSandwiches Level 7 Commenter 9 months ago

lol...steel is the common bond! I was sitting her thinking of that day with my mom...guess what...that was the day they announced Governor Palin's selection for 2008. Mom liked the choice...I liked that she liked something that day.

Hey...if you find yourself back in Palin's Army...check out the bottom. This "blue-up" shit is the shit. Take care my friend...your research earned the votes.

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CMerritt Level 7 Commenter 9 months ago

Fred, I NOW have a much better understanding about something I knew, basicly NOTHING about. You did a great job of explianing so that an old bone head like me can understand. I hope and pray that your wife continues to get better.

Up awesome interesting AND useful!

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Ghost32 Hub Author 9 months ago

ThoughtSandwiches: Just got back from checking out your blue-up. Nice work, and thanks for the link.

CMerritt: Thanks; that's what I was shooting for.

Appreciate the prayers for Pam--always welcome--and the Votes for the Hub.

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WillStarr Level 8 Commenter 9 months ago

Very good work, Fred and a great explanation. Up, and everything but funny.

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My Minds Eye53 Level 6 Commenter 9 months ago

I am the opposite, my bones are so dense they won't break and I tear cartilage instead. They make me weigh more too. But I am thankful for these bones, they have saved my life more than once and I have been told I won't have to worry about osteoporosis.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 9 months ago

Will: Thanks, including the "not funny" part. We have a greater collection of braces and wraps for Pam's knees, ankles, and wrists than you could possibly imagine. Hips are still on one piece, thank goodness.

My Minds Eye53: Nothing wrong with a little weight when it's got a job to do, like having bones dense enough to save your life. Not having to worry about osteoporosis is also a good thing.

There are a couple of ways in which I can (me personally) relate to your super-dense bones:

1. Mine can be broken--a few busted ribs in the rodeo arena, influenced by one-hoof Brahma bull landings and such, have proven that. But not easily, and it's possible I've got a "lighter" version of your situation. At least, when I try doing a "dead man's float" in any body of water, it becomes just that; I sink to the bottom. There's no float to it.

2. Under heavy stress, the first thing to give in my arms is usually neither muscle nor bone, but the tendons at the elbows.

Which can put a crimp in a guy's arm wrestling prowess for a time.

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WillStarr Level 8 Commenter 9 months ago

I was going to say this in a personal e-mail Fred, but I think I'll just say it here.

You come off as a tough old cowboy and an equally tough old truck driver, and I am sure you are both, but the tender and loving way you patiently care for your red-headed lady tells me more about what sort of real man you are than anything else you write (and you are superb writer).

Just let me say that it's a genuine honor to know you.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 9 months ago

Thanks Will. It's an honor to know you, too--there's a reason you were voted best Hubber for your western fiction, and it's not ALL about the stories (despite their sterling quality).

Congratulations, by the way!

(Been meaning to say that.)

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drbj Level 8 Commenter 9 months ago

This was an interesting and fascinating explanation of bone growing and shedding that I don't think any physician will ever tell you about. Thanks for your research, Fred. And drawings.

Becky 9 months ago

I have to take an estrogen blocker for 5 years to give me an additional 10% chance of not getting my breast cancer back. It robs calcium, which is what make the strong bones. Therefore, I have to get a bone density test every year for that time period. They really suck!!! I guess it is better than getting osteoporosis though. So far, mine is good for my age, probably because I drink LOTS of milk. My grandmother had osteoporosis and broke her hip when she fell down once. Hers was not as bad as Pam's. That was the only time she broke one. Her's was from cancer also.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 9 months ago

drbj: You're welcome.

I suspect the physicians don't tell us these things because most of them don't understand it themselves. The percentage of MD's who are really up on pharmacology, knowing precisely how the various drugs do what they do, is pretty small from what we've seen.

Becky: Got it. Pam and I've gotten pretty self-educated on "stuff that robs calcium". For example, the phophoric acid in most soda pop, the Dilantin she used to take (but no longer needs) to block seizures, etc.

Pam drinks milk and takes calcium supplements, but her body does not absorb calcium well. Most likely as one of the results of having had rheumatic fever (which nearly killed her) at preschool age.

We have to believe the nutritional and medication regimens Pam is on have helped considerably. That, and her ability to grow lean muscle mass without conscious effort. During her hardcore streetfight last Nov. 7, she was slammed down with great force at the end of a 30-foot "drive" by her opponent. The landing was largely on her left hip, on rocks, with at least some of the weight of her opponent adding to the impact.

Major bruising on the hip--but NO BREAK.

Awesome.

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breakfastpop Level 8 Commenter 9 months ago

Those meds for osteoporosis were never meant for humans. They were developed for the car industry to help keep paint on cars longer. Now, of course, women are fracturing their femas because of these "wonderful" drugs. Doctors now are telling their patients to get off the meds. What a mess.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 9 months ago

Hunh. I'd missed the "keep paint on cars" history, etc.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 9 months ago

Okay, that got me curious. Searching "History of" one of those meds produced the following tidbit:

"...is a type of bisphosphonate. Bisphosphonates have been used since the middle of the 19th century when they were employed for corrosion prevention and washing powders in the textile, fertilizer and oil industries. About 30 years ago scientists discovered bisphosphonates have the remarkable ability to inhibit the breakdown of bones, experienced by many post-menopausal women."

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bethperry Level 6 Commenter 9 months ago

Ghost, my adoption Mama has osteoporosis and it runs big time in her family. There isn't a single one who doesn't have it to some extent. And she's had to take the bone density test for years. In the beginning the doctors told her to take calcium supplements, and good goddess, she tried every kind imaginable. Never a help. In later years, the doctors told her calcium supplements were of no use for an inherited problem. The only really good thing they ever suggested was surgery. It sucked but it has helped.

I'm sending your wife positive vibes on her situation!

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Ghost32 Hub Author 9 months ago

Thanks, Beth. Positive vibes are good.

Surgery? I can see the suck part, but HOW did it help?

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bethperry Level 6 Commenter 9 months ago

Ghost, it was some kind of silicone coating that hinders further damage to individual disks (her worst ones were basically crumbling and turning to dust). The process also helped align her spinal column, which was kinked (causing stooped back) after years of deterioration in the disks. The deterioration of the spinal column had also forced her ribs to press into her lungs, making breathing difficult. She's more comfortable now, although they still want to do some more coatings.

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Ghost32 Hub Author 9 months ago

Wow. That sounds like the cure is definitely worse than the disease. Glad it worked for her, though.

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